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CSA0061: Alice: Contemplate current status of The Plan.

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Shenanigans in a Magical Forest

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You are now ALICE MARGATROID. You belong to the MAGICIAN species of YOUKAI, but you were born a HUMAN -- in MAKAI, oddly enough. You live in the same house you've lived in since you moved into GENSŌKYŌ, now with KIRISAME MARISA, who is THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN THE WORLD to you. You are a DOLLMAKER, and you can magically control every single DOLL in the house; while they generally have some automated functions, they are all ultimately SOULLESS AUTOMATA under your direct control (or that of MARISA). You have a dream, however, of creating a sapient INDEPENDENTLY-MOVING DOLL. Your most treasured doll is named SHANGHAI (currently floating next to your head).

Your plan for the day is to experiment on SPIRITUAL ENERGY, using the spirits of blades of GRASS. (In GENSŌKYŌ, animism is a reality.) SOULS and SPIRITS and GODS may be infinitiely divided, and they may subsequently recombine their own SPIRITS, but what about two recombining the spirits of two different entities?

Current status: You have the principle well in hand, and you're almost done developing a scalable and portable SPELL for extracting, dividing, combining, and reinserting SOULS into the vessel of your choice. The only setback is having to put all your DOLLS on guard-duty, but with MIMA running around, it can't be helped, and it shouldn't be too. much trouble.

What will you do first?

> Alice: Quickly retrieve arms from stash of spare doll parts.

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teejeh

> Alice: Retrieve arms from Grimoire.
> Torture grass spirits ... I mean practise extraction and division.

Tewi Inonymous

o.O I can only assume that youkai have no morality or empathy? Cause um damn.

Yuyuko

>Alice: Squawk like an imbecile and shit on your dresser.

Bocaj

>Alice: Retrieve arms from Shanghai
>Shanghai: Retrieve arms from off-panel
>Red-shirt dolls: Retrieve arms from each other.

So many arms.

>Alice: Prepare experiment for Marisa's eventual arrival.

Beta Maxis

> Alice: Collect tall grass from the Forest of Magic, as A) Magic grass=more spirit, and B) Ditto for tall grass.

Tosanu

Ride Grimore like a mechanical bull.

Young Demon Lord

> Alice: Quickly retrieve arms from stash of spare doll parts.

Duran

> Alice: Collect tall grass from the Forest of Magic, as A) Magic grass=more spirit, and B) Ditto for tall grass.

-ED

> Wander through a field of pokemon until you find some tall grass.

I mean- wait, what?

Morgan

o.O I can only assume that youkai have no morality or empathy? Cause um damn.

Given the previous discussions on the subject, I think we can reasonably assume that you can't actually torture grass, or something.

After all, people in Gensokyo presumably also *eat* plants. Unless you're going to suggest that Alice should become an Oxygenarian, I'm not sure how this is worse.

Dizzy H. Muffin

I thought the reaction was more to what she's doing with souls in general, but yeah. All living things have souls, but they aren't actually sapient, any more than the original living thing.

Enlong

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, she was definitely not willing to transfer a living person's soul into a doll, but spirit from plants should be pretty well within moral boundaries.

Especially since if "infinitely divided" means what I think it does, then it's even less of a problem.

Anyway:

> Alice: Wonder what happened to all your other Eerily Luminous Shanghai Dolls.

Tewi Inonymous

I thought the reaction was more to what she's doing with souls in general, but yeah. All living things have souls, but they aren't actually sapient, any more than the original living thing.

Ok that means "Souls" are just the items spiritual/magical energy, but a soul in a recipient with sufficient information processing capabilities the information is imprinted on it.

Is that correct?

Dizzy H. Muffin

Short answer: yeah.

Long answer: YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH Yes, but the reverse is also true, which is how a tsukumogami forms.

teejeh

Bah! I can't believe that you've fallen for that Grass Spirit propaganda. Pretending to be non-sapient is the oldest trick in the book. They've learned from the tomatoes mistakes and when the time comes grass won't be defeated by some lame pop hit. Just fire, sharp or heavy objects, grazing animals, herbicides ... wait, what was my point again?

After all, people in Gensokyo presumably also *eat* plants.

Yes well, youkai are presumably supposed to eat humans. But really, it's not as though there is unanimous consensus on the morality of animal testing or even predation so declaring certain souls to be canonically non-sapient or non-sentient just makes everything much less complicated. Which I guess is a pretty big "just".

Bocaj

Some youkai eat humans but others just feed off their spirit. Which, if you believe Kogasa, means they use surprise or fear or some such as sustenance. I wonder where magician youkai like Alice fit in.

Dizzy H. Muffin

They use magic, obviously. ;)

But yeah. Canonically, or at least in my canon, souls are precisely as sapient as the vessel, if you will, that they inhabit.